any chance agains SR20DET???

[T2Exa]

Hey,

Does our car stand any chance agains stock or even mild-tuned 180SX SR??

Cheers,

[Hairball]

turbo? NO :)
non turbo..... mmmm so so.. but i doubt it.

[Nisman]

i raced my mates 2rdet 180, with 175 tyres, and heaps of wheel spin i still kept him, i now have fatter tyres and a couple of psi more boost, i havent had the chance for a rematch, however i did beat a r33 gtst he lost to the other night, so i know it is possible.
the 180 had an exhaust, 10psi, but otherwise stock.

[boostinhard]

Hey,
I'd argue that... SR's are not invinceable, even against the lil 'ol e15.
Sam

[Chaotic]

im gonna say damn straight we can take it!

[T2Exa]

hey,

so with the right mods. we should take them on?!?!
sound good... but what kind of mods we need?

[boostinhard]

Hey,
ok - you will need serious mods. Thats about all I can say!!! But seriously, yeah, a bigger turbo, more boost, cooler, exhaust, possibly even a ecu... ATLEAST!
Sam

[Nugget]

where about are you in brisbane t2exa

[T2Exa]

I'm in south side. near Griffith Uni, Nathan campus

[[YMMIJ]]

Guys you're all doing it the hard way!

pick on the auto s13s with loud exhausts, easy peasy!

though i don't think you'd need many mods to beat SRs, i've beaten more than a few and my car is a stocker!

[Master Yoda]

thats no fun, i like an actual challenge, even if i do get beaten

-Mike

[68IOU1]

and what on earth is so challenging about driving in a straight line?

[joe]

Originally posted by [YMMIJ]
Guys you're all doing it the hard way!

pick on the auto s13s with loud exhausts, easy peasy!

though i don't think you'd need many mods to beat SRs, i've beaten more than a few and my car is a stocker!

yeah right, i bet they werent even trying.
there is no way in the world you could beat a 200sx , 180sx or silv
in a stock n12, even if they were n/a SR's

[boostinhard]

Hey,
well obviously a 20 year old 1.5 litre SOHC FWD isnt going to beat a 3 or 4 year old 2 litre DOHC SR20DET... But that wasnt the question. I'll give a SR20 a shot, stock or not - fuck it. Wont beat em all, but I'll do my bloddy best.
Sam

[[YMMIJ]]

Originally posted by joe
yeah right, i bet they werent even trying.
there is no way in the world you could beat a 200sx , 180sx or silv
in a stock n12, even if they were n/a SR's

i guess you can't drive, i've beaten many s13s in my time, my car is not totally stock, but always running standard boost. Oh and some of them would have been manual too.

If you go to street drags and you don't try, what's the use being there, to mention lining up to race.

n/a SRs are a piece of cake mate, if you can't beat them then you shouldn't be racing. My car used to be faster with the T2, now the T25 makes me slower i don't race it anymore.

You obviously haven't been street racing for a long time. I've seen civics/ lancers (turboed) beat the likes of skylines, type Rs. Hell i've even beaten an SR20DET RPS13, in a gawd damn vtec N fucking A accord.

Oh, my mate SR20DET, maddly modded made 125 kws at the wheels, say the average sr20det, has 100kws, in a 1.3 tonne shell that ain't worth shit man.

I'm the one who always says how slow the n12 is, i can't belive i'm defending them this time. :)

In closing, an n12 lightly modded WILL have a fighting chance against anything SR20DET powered. Dicks to all those who can't beat s13s, and sam your car would shit on an s13, no doubt. Finally, joe you can't drive mate.

Although, i just thought about it, past 160 or so km/h you have no chance against that DOHC junk.

[joe]

oi, i didnt say I couldnt beat them in my n13 ca18det, i said a stock n12 could no way beat one, and if yours can beat one stock you must be driving one hell of a stock 80 whatever kw n12 exa. iand yes i do reckon a done up highly boosted n12 could keep up or beat one, But a stock one WHAT THE FUCK!!! are you on!!!

and no im not a shit driver, i just think stock n12's are slow, and if you think a stocker can beat a sr20det powered car you must crazy or you just dont know fuck all!!

[T2Exa]

Hey,

Dont know about you guys, but I never have a change to line up againt the SR. But I have often drag with CA both NA and Turbo.... All I know is that the old E15 can't push enough air out after 130Km/h. :(

A bit out of topic: Do we have 180km/h cut off?

[[YMMIJ]]

pfft. joe mate, when you have JUST a 3" exhaust it's basically stock mate. no boost no turbos, just the exhaust!

1. exa's have 67 kws, standard. or close to that, slightly less for unleaded
2. exa's weigh shit all
3. good driver shit car vs. shit driver good car
4. yes, n12s are slow
5. i've probably owned my exa and been street racing it for longer than you've had your licence buddy.
6. yes, you must be a shit driver
7. yes, you're a keyboard warrior

this is getting ridicolous, obviously you can't drive your exa to it's fullest! I CAN BEAT SR20DETs, can anyone else say that they've beaten anything like this?

EXA's don't have the speed limiter, but you'd be lucky if you could push it past 180! i once got 185!

[[YMMIJ]]

oh yes, i've just realized you don't drive an n12, obviously you don't know how hard it goes. Pointless arguing on really.

[joe]

whatever dude

[T2Exa]

n12 dont have speed limiter? that funny cause after i hit 180 the car just die out on me... :thumbsdow

[Nisman]

pffft, 180km speed limiter.......
i had mine to 195 stock then backed off, and i guess my avatar speaks for itself since i did a bit of work to it.

i dont mean to get involved in the debate, but im with joe.
i cannot see anyway that a stock n12, or even a midly mod'd n12 on stock boost would beat a sr20det powered car.
here are a few facts.
exa
74kw/920kg = 0.084kw/kg (power to weight)
16.7sec quarter mile

200sx
147kw/1230kg = 0.12kw/kg
14.4 sec quarter mile.

i cant see how a stock exa, could come even close to running a mid to low 14 second quarter.
i agree that there are some shit drivers out there, but a good driver can not make a car faster than its potential.

i am no profesional race driver, but i consider myself a good driver. have raced alot of things, and was a regular at the street drags around my area in western sydney.
i can say now, that on 12psi, i was not keeping sr180's, on 15psi i know i can beat one.
my car is far from standard, and i am sure that i could run an easy low 14.
have beat things like wrx, r33gtst, ca18det 180.


when i first got my n12, totally stock, i could beat an sr n14 pulsar, slowly pulling away.
sure a stock n12 could beat an sr20det, but the driver would have to have down syndrome or something.

[86sr20det]

well i know when i get my 4WD sr20det installed in my car i know ill be able to beat any other car with an sr20. Not including an e15et

[Nisman]

awd in a pulsar??
sounds pretty wild, and definitly original.
alot of hassle, and alot of $$$, but hey, at least its not what every one else does.

good luck dude.

what car are you grafting the 4wd gear from, gtir?

[Master Yoda]

speaking of AWD n12, i was wondering how would you be able to do it with a e15et motor

-Mike

[86sr20det]

i dont know what car my engine comes from......i do know it was cheaper for me to get the AWD instead of FR....is the gtir the late model pulsars? they dont sell those in the us....anyways...my car is stripped down to the chassis and the engine is in.....next comes the tranny.....then ill probably have to cut the driveshaft shorter and the linkage for the shifter......ive been working on it every saturday and sunday in my shop when im not doing bodywork and kits for other peoples cars.....after my engine is in and done(modded just a tad) ill make wide body flares and hopefully modify another kit from another car to fit the n12 maybe an MR2 kit or something will be easiest....if you guys have any suggestions as far as body kits go let me know......i can easly fit them as long as they have somewhay of the same shape as te n12.

[Master Yoda]

the GTIR is an N14 pulsar AWD SR20DET

have you got any pics of your conversion o4r car yet, would love to see how you go with it

-Mike

[86sr20det]

Once the engine/drivetrain are assembled I can take pictures. Otherwise the car is stripped down to the chassis with the sr mounted and thats it! I didnt even remember what my N12 looked like until I found this site. Also I was wondering if anyone knew of some good pis of custom or AEM wide body/fender flares or body kits, I'm looking to design my own and I'm not quite sure where to start. Right now I've limited myself to those shitty mr2 body kits which I'll have to modify extremely just to make them look good.

[Paz]

i was side by side with a SR20DE a while back.....

i only have standard t2..

[XXFearThisXX]

i have to ask would a ca18de or even a ca18de 5 speed with a few mods be able to beat a stock sr20de 5 speed with a few mods?..i saw somewhere on the web that ca18de is still preffered over the sr20de because of a number of things like the break in point on the sr20de is worser then the ca18de and the ca18de doesint break in as badly which makes it have a better chance or somethin like that i read REMEMBER IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TURBO IM TALKING ABOUT THE N/A!! 5 speed's:)

[Nisman]

im not sure about non turbo, but i have 3 mates with 180sx's.
both stock, 2 are srdets, 1 is cadet.
the ca destroys both the sr's, all running 6psi and totally stock.

what do you mean by break in point?? do you mean where the motor starts to hit peak power and pulling the hardest?

[XXFearThisXX]

i guess im not too sure what the topic was about when i was reading it but it was somethin about the ca18de doesint break in as bad as the sr20de which is a good thing..im not sure i cant remember..lol

[BoOsted]

Hey,

an Auto CA18det VS a Manual wouldn't have any difference at high speeds would they eg 160km/h+

Also just going back to the orginal topic, over 60ft, yes an exa might win over a Sr but hell, but a STOCK exa would NOT beat a stock Sr20det, as nisman said, the figures don't lie, good driving only goes to a certain point.

thats my 2c anyhoo

Dan :afro:

[Android 360]

street racing sux.. too many variables.. if you really wanted to find out, race one at a drag strip

dont think so tho somehow..