Suzys N13 Work In Progress "55EXA"

[EXA-cism]

Hey
Hopefully this will not be a long process, my pride and joy is broken, thusly i must destroy it further and rebuild... as they would say at uni epistomological ...

The Turbo Project Begins with the car getting to Simons




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[chkn72]

good stuff, care to shed some light on the plans? (im sure others would like to know!)

[HiToRiKo]

yep

[EXA-cism]

simon has the plan

the maroon one currently has no engine, i was studying at the time.

There is a plan however to turbo it. using the current higher compression motor with the turbo parts form the white one which is a t 28 and run low psi - eg 9psi

simons secret operation with the 180 - ie what colour he is painting his, effects the colour mine will be as they are going to be the same. cause it wouldn't be truely sad unless we had matching cars.
plan is for a very clean car, straighen the front bar- as cna be seen - i crashed in to my ex's car and it is crimped on the side. so that will be straightened and kept stock.
so nothing too drastic to the body, i like the hideously ugly shape of the exa, and with a respray i am hoping for a bit of an hommage to the 80's
besides that we all know my sentimental attachment to my car so, i can't sell anything and i can't throw anything away, so the more i change the fuller my garage is, and i need space for the car... so it is just as pratical as it is sentimental

upon closer inspection - the front bar needs some serious refresh, as i used ot nudge a white cupboard in the garage as it was the only way i could get in far enough to close the door. :D

[Mazikowski]

bah... turbo project... i wish i had the money for that

you make me sad! :( :( :( :(

[Android 360]

haha yeah i think its pretty vital you get that bumper repainted :P dont want it to be all go no show hehehe

[Elanore]

joel sleepers are good. no one knows the car is turbo'd until it floggs them off the line

[Frosty]

Hahahaha.. ohhh.. do I sence a sneaky bugga? :P

[Frosty]

I just noticed something else.. which explains another thing.. hmmm.. oh wells.. :P

[Elanore]

can't wait to hear about the turbo conversion going on.

[Nash]

Ohhh, i like the white one its so purrrty

[EXA-cism]

the white one is a bucket of shit and it getting parted.. you want it :P?????

[EXA-cism]

Update from a while ago.. too lazy to put up the pics until now.
i have also bought a new motor so i can have my car back for my 21st birthday
and i also bought my new plates
55EXA..
sexa or Suzy Shiell Exa.. when dad is driving it he would prefer it mean my initals :P

had a big convo with mum last night about how the exa got to out family, and how mu grandmother loved it.. so i need it back.. ir eally really miss it :(

this is Simon Packy making my car further away from me having it back.

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She doesn't even know what is going to happen to her.
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she is already sad
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I sincerly hope that this box is empty again when simon puts the car back together.. these bits look important :P
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about 30 seconds before this pic was taken simons mother came out and said, simon can you please put some card board down, i dont need more oil on the driveway, simon said, it is ok, we aren't doing anything to cause oil leak yet..... then you hear OH SHIT get me a rag quick. simon comes out from under the car covered in oil.. his brain fart was : hmm i will just disconnect this hose here and WOA oil.. grab it..
and look at that before it broke.. BRAND NEW TYRES.. grr
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Packy Working hard.
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simon working.. not quite as hard
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Simon watching packy work.
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i actually had chest pains when that happened
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packy is happy he just broke my heart
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They took her feet off so she couldn't even run away!!!
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The motor gets further away from the car... is this a bad time to change my mind?
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Simon standing like a kid in a museum... one of the great wonders of mechanical history.. the worlds largest paper weight, the CA18DE
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simon gets intimate...
i have always wondered how simon always get so dirty when he does so little.
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hanging around.
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this makes suzy sad in pants.
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My first bit of involvement.. i was studying. and running around the gold coast being simon and packys bitch.
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DA,DA,DA Daaaaaaaaaaaa PACKY POWER
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by the third photo, you start wondering Why isn't simon helping
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This is really sad isn't it.. its got no heart!
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But is shiny and clean.... and that is the reason i am respraying the car the same colour.. opps i came a little. :P
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yup. simon takes alot of photos that all look the same.

[Astro boi]

Taking up photography any time soon........ nah that's all good, let us all know how it goes!!!

[chkn72]

great stuff!! I thought yours and simons cars were going to be the same colours? or have I just worked out what colour simons car will be :P

whens the next working bee?

[EXA-cism]

nah i bacially got him sponsored so the company will paint his car with their colours...
i put together a very good package for them
all they do is buy a trailer, paint his car, and (it is a petrol company) so they make him his own blend of petrol which will be 99.9999 octane, and buy him a kit, pay his entry and maintain the car..

They get free promo, a free promo girl who they currently pay to go to all their events. and it is an area of car racing they have never promoed to!!!

so yea all plans for matching cars are on hold.

[EXA-cism]

probably in about 1.5 weeks cause i will get getting a new motor, brand new revuild. guy had a kid realised he couldn't keep both, and the baby didn't fit back in, so he had to pick her..

so i got a turbo fresh rebuild, really cheap. so it will be dropped in asap!!

[Packy]

Not saying anything chook :D

[rusty]

grrrrrr im getting a exa bug back i think.. please hit me b4 i dig deep into my pockets again ....cant wait to see it finsh lukes get with this shit done it lots of times except his so when are u doing the conversion yourself lukus?

[EXA-cism]

lol..... well luke certainly did more than me :) i studied

[Clown]

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You sellout Luke :p

Trolleyjack FTW!!! ;)

[EXA-cism]

updates

my new motor
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my new plates

SSEXA.. sssssssssssssssssexa or my initials are SS exa

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[EXA-cism]

nothin mamma bought them for my 21st :D

[IRB20]

Well we have been lazy or so it seems, been putting together the new motor and box and shit in between working on the 180.

Finally got the motor in today. Here are some pictures of the motor and also of the plates on the car.

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Oh i also painted my car in primer this weekend hehe, here is a pic

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[reeceknot]

nice, fill in the fuel filler cap on the 180 tho!

[IRB20]

meh its a drift car, who cares.

[IRB20]

Heheh yeah. going to hide the cooler as much as possible.

Might even get an s13 SMIC just to make it less obvious and run shorter cooler piping :)

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[IRB20]

yeah the plan once its on the road is to fit gti-r coilovers, some works rims, and respray in factory colour.

[Packy]

This is definately gonna be a sleeper car when we are finished working on it :D

Here is Simon busy doing what he does best :p
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Let's see how long it takes him to find this http://packy.zenmaedia.com/flipa.gif

[Clown]

Owned :D

[IRB20]

Son of a bitch..... funny thing is i woke up like that at 7.30 lol

Well this morning was taken up with baseball for me, we won 9 - 1.

Then we came home and started on the car. We still needed to get the rear engine mount in properly and also the crossmember. The mount took some fiddling (not the kevin rudd kind) and finally Packy got it in. Bolted the cross member in place and she was mounted and never moving.

I messed around with the fuel lines and throttle body getting ready for new fuel line. Going to work on it during the week when im not sanding my car and hopefully get most of the engine wiring out of the way. Will also be sending it off to get the front pipe on the exhaust made.

Here are some pictures:

Pretty Fly For a White Boy Packy, posing with the car.
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The Car Finally Has a Motor in it and its able to roll
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What clearance issue?
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[EXA-cism]

i hope you cuddling the pillows means you miss me..
arent you cute

[Packy]

Mmmm, that is some sexy turbo goodness we got going on there :D

He was missing you Suzy, but I was there last night so he is happy now ;)

[Clown]

Mmmm, that is some sexy turbo goodness we got going on there :D

How big is said turbo?

[Packy]

Just a T25, not sure if it's a G though. Brain isn't on yet to remember. Suzy doesn't need it any bigger, apparently it went rather well when it was in the KE70 'rolla.

[IRB20]

Its a T25G, so off the SR20.

Didnt want anything big, cause dont want to run a lot of boost. Will be getting it limited to 5-7psi just to make sure the motor will last until Suzy finished uni.

[Clown]

Thats good.

Just sizing up the opposition :p

[EXA-cism]

it other words i cannot be trusted with anything bigger

[IRB20]

in other words i dont want u to kill urself or the motor.

[Packy]

Mainly the motor, gotta think of that :p

[EXA-cism]

ouch, but i thought the same thing, he doesn't want to have to fix it.... again

[Packy]

We both don't want to fix it, again :p

Nah just kidding Suzy, can't wait to get it finished to see how the beast runs. If you're lucky then we may even let you have a drive :D

[Frosty]

We both don't want to fix it, again :p

Nah just kidding Suzy, can't wait to get it finished to see how the beast runs. If you're lucky then we may even let you have a drive :D

lol

[EXA-cism]

lol you will find i will br driving it first :P
you may alll come for a drive however

[Packy]

That's what you think ;)

[IRB20]

Drive shafts are in.
New Passenger Seat is in (old one wouldnt slide back and forth)
Passenger side indicator is in (old one broken)
Thermal fan is in
Started putting the loom back in (going to take a little while)

Should be going to get exhaust this week. Also Suzy is getting, radiator hoses, fuel line, water line. Battery Relocation kit.

Going to hopefully start it this weekend coming if I can get the wiring sorted out.

Didnt work on it on Saturday cause I spent the day spraying my car, here is a pic :P

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[Packy]

Mmmmm, that's a sexy colour. Can't wait to see it cleared and when I come down this weekend.

[Packy]

Ok, time for an update. I just woke up cause we were up till 3am this morning, finished working on it and dropped Suzy home.

Car went to the exhaust shop the other day to get a pipe made up from the dump pipe to the flex pipe. We heat wrapped the manifold and dump to reduce the temp in the engine bay a bit.

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Meanwhile I set to work on the fun job of wiring the Microtech LT8 into the car andfiguring otu what we did and didn't need from the original loom. Simon was a good bitch here :p as was Suzy :D

Here's the coils all wired up, looking all sexy, I'll get better pics today when we roll it out of the shed.
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Here is the 3 relays to control coil 12+ feed, thermo fan, and fuel pump, also there is a fuse distribution block for all the power feeds to them and the ecu itself. This is tidier now than in this pic, will get a new pic today.
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Here are a few more shots of the wiring harness :D yes I was rather impressed with how it worked out, one of those it has to be seen in person things to be apreciated properly :p
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This last shot is at 1am, Simon is still actually awake and working on the car with me, can't say the same for Suzy though :p
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That's when we decided to call it a night. All we have left to do to it today is Engine Oil, Gearbox Oil (could be fun cause it's a JDM box i think and there is no filler plug, where they normally are it is blanked off), tighten up drift shafts, plumb up turbo to intake, put bonnet back on, bleed brakes, then go boosting :D

[EXA-cism]

omg i look like alittle buhdda baby! look at my neck. That is a cruel cruel thing.. note i will not let go of my lip balm even when alseep

[StaTiK]

not too bad. how was the microtech to wire up on a scale of 1-10?

im thinking of going for a microtech in my one soon.

also, did you have any real fitment problems with the s13 intake manifold?

and i hate to say it, but the color of the 180 is fucking hideous... hopefully it looks better with a clear... im guessing thats the color hot off the gun?

[krikket_nx]

Yeah that's the colour straight out of the gun without clear, it's actually the same as my Exa, Nissan AH3 :D The maroon is a hot colour when it's all fresh and buffed up.

As for the Microtech wiring, it's a piece of piss. I took my time doing it and made sure that everything is neat and tidy. We tried to start it this arvo but no luck, would appear that either the timing belt is out a tooth or the map that was for the T28 doesn't quite suit the T25G. Simon is thinking of taking it in to a shop to get the map looked at.

Oh this is Luke/Packy on Sara's puter.

[chkn72]

luke, the map shouldn't make it not run, just make it run rather rich - mine is mapped for a T3/T4 but it has a T25G on it... does it crank at all?

looks the goods, need a better photographer tho, lol

[Packy]

STFU @ photographer :p

I think it's the timing belt now that I have actually had sleep and can think straight, lol. Gonna have a look at the timing belt to see if it's a tooth out, just gonna be fun with the engine in the car itself :(

[chkn72]

probably same thing that was wrong with mine.... had spark, fuel and everything but wouldn't start... speak to kelvin/sara about it.... was to do with the timing belt

@photographer - you just need a mega flash like me, mega flash rocks haha, oh and a DSLR :P....





...and skill :D

[Scraps]

sounds like its gonna be a beast.. i spot some parts id like already mwahahaha!

[IRB20]

and i hate to say it, but the color of the 180 is fucking hideous... hopefully it looks better with a clear... im guessing thats the color hot off the gun?

This coming from someone with a yellow exa and types all there posts in purple.......... Thats just too easy.


Car is coming along, Hopefully get it running in the next few days.

[Packy]

probably same thing that was wrong with mine.... had spark, fuel and everything but wouldn't start... speak to kelvin/sara about it.... was to do with the timing belt

@photographer - you just need a mega flash like me, mega flash rocks haha, oh and a DSLR :P....





...and skill :D


It was done late at night with a Nokia N95, not bad for night time with a phone that has 5mp :p Flash isn't the best.

[Starbuck]

I love the colour of the 180 and the look of the wiring setup for the coils. It's sexy.

[Packy]

Thanks :D Suzy had a guy come round to have a look at the microtech tune and he had never heard of them, he also tried telling her that the CAS tells the car how fast it's going, rofl. He also said that the car won't run without the AFM too, even though it had an aftermarket ECU and he was shown the wiring diagram.

[Buzz]

^^^^^ thats funny as love it don't ya just love people that don't know what there talking about i had the same thing when a friend was helping put the aftermarket one in my car....

[EXA-cism]

he told me the three reasons my car wouldn't run were:
1. The battery is in the boot (i looked at him and said WHAT the battery doesn't know where it isGEEs. then he told me it was illegal then argued that the odessy wasn't a dry cell :rollseyes:

2. my fuel pump runs for too long and he worked for nissan when exas came out ( i said um, so you remember how long it is supposed to run for, off the top of your head? btw HI, i would like to intoduce myself and my car one owner exa, the owner. it has always run like that.)

3. AFM. ARGUED with me the whole time.

he told me the CAS "TALKS" to the speedo to tell the car how fast it is going. i said, ok i know i am female and i know i am blonde and i dont profess to know everything about cars but i know that you are lying to me right now, dont treat me like an idoit i dont appriciate it.

then i asked him to check the mirco tech.... he asked me what a mirco tech i was, i said WHY ARE YOU HERE???????? and i explained that it was the ecu and i asked the office girl if they had the software and the equiptment to check my mircotech. SHE SAID YES. he said, well she is an office girl, she is very good at what she does but she isn't a mechanic.. and i said I work at BCF and i have never been fly fishing, but i an make you up a smashing fly fishing rig. if you work in a specialised industry and you get paid to do so I EXPECT as a customer that you have SOME knowledge and you dont waste my fucking time because i had skipped uni. to be there and get my car running and HE WAS AN ASHTRAY ON A MOTORBIKE!!!
so we told him to leave and i told him i wouldn't be paying him.
and i didn't

[EXA-cism]

no he DID work for nissan!i was offended

[Buzz]

thats funny as oh i wish i coulda been there.....:heehee: :heehee: :cheesegri :heehee: :teeeth: :chuckle:

[EXA-cism]

simons mum was tge clincher... she can be a nasty nasty women i think she scared him off too

[EXA-cism]

haven't you met an exa? someone was as dumb as dog shit there... the thing doesn't make sence. silly car, but i love it

[Packy]

I really wanted to give the guy a serve and tell him that he was a complete fucktard that got his mechanics ticket from a box of Wheaties :p

[chkn72]

should printed out the page in the manual where it says "CAM ANGLE SENSOR" (i'm pretty sure it says cam, not crank... but yeah, its nothing to do with the speed) lol

what sort of mechanic would think that something on the ENGINE not the GEARBOX would deal with speed? what a nutter....

glad you didn't pay for it suzy... whats the plan now?

[Packy]

I think she has another guy lined up that knows microtech and can't wait to get his hands on it. He said he won't charge to just look at it.

[EXA-cism]

he was a lovely irish man over the phone and when i told him i put a s13 motor in and n13 he knew what i was talking about asked if i had a microtech and said it sounds like a fun fast little car and can't wait to see it. he wont charge me to see it and test it and if he finds out what it is he will ix it andcall me to tell me how much for before he touches it and they will tow it home if they an't get it running. he said he would rather loose money the first time and make sure i come back than get all he can then never see me again

[chkn72]

awesome, I wish more people had that attitude, make customers happy and they come back :D

so whens that happening?

I can't believe Luke and Simon are giving up :P pansies!!! lol :D

[IRB20]

Would rather get it running before christmas....

[Buzz]

IRB20^^^^ love that sig pic bro it looks awsome
the cooler looks sweet as!

[KaiShin]

Luke, have you checked that the CAS is working?
As in the little moon key hasn't broke?

That was the problem with Chkn's in the end...

[Packy]

Nah the cas is fine, it's pulsing the injectors and the coils correctly. I checked the keys when I pulled it out. It's just a timing issue, 99% positive that it's the actual timing belt out.

We haven't given up on it, I would go and do it this weekend but I am already booked out to go to Toowoomba so I can't and Suzy needs the car going asap.

[EXA-cism]

we my irish friend flaked out on me.. i knew it was too good to be true. So i spoke to dad and words i never thought i would ever hear in my whole life came out of his mouth i am still shocked i am asounteded lost for words even :P

"I dont care what it costs 2000,3000, 4000 just get the fucking thing running, AND I WILL PAY"

HE, thats right my tight arse, wanting to wreck the exa, stingy ass father called Chip Tourque!
they were booked out but they recomended this mobile guy. i called him and told him the situation and he said. YES I HAVE THE EQUIPTMENT AND KNOW HOT TO WORK ON MIRCOTECHS.
so the man comes over my father, the man who couldn't stay through my highschool musical came over too! personally i am still afraid that it is not really my father. i have known this man for a while and he he doesn'tr often care about my car or really anything other than something that directly effects him.

so not only did he pay the mechanic he stayed and listened to what the man had to say.

he proceeds to look under my bonnet. i said can you please check the computer... DOEST THY EARS DECEIVE ME. the FUCKER SAYS I DONT LIKE MICROTECHS AND I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM!!

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE!!!!!!!!!

he said to me well to be honest when you called and said it wouldn't run i assumed it was just going to be spark feul or something. but now i have tested all those i think it is either a microtech timing issue or a mechanical timing issue

TRANSLATION
When you called and i heard that you didn't have a set of tesicles i assumed that you didn't check the FUCKING OBVIOUS.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW/WANT TO WORK ON A MIRCOTECH STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME AND MY FUCKING CAR

it is booked in to chiptourqe for next wednesday.

[EXA-cism]

i just want my car back


simon is soooooooooo sick of me saying that
and i am sure the 180 will appriciate having the garage back and simons parents will enjoy having it gone

[reeceknot]

heh bad luck mate, im sure chiptorque will get it going good...

[IRB20]

yes i am sick of hearing it.... i was tempted to just take it to matty spry..... cost an arm and a leg, but will get it running. lol

[EXA-cism]

i was going to take it there but the waiting list is too long
mum and dad have reached the point where they dont care

[Packy]

Well if Chiptorque don't get it running then there is something wrong with them. I can't believe that your dad said that though, that's amazing.

[HiToRiKo]

you've been in the wars sweetie hope everything goes well :)

[HiToRiKo]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/simon_co84/IMAG0032.jpg

how much that cage cost you?

[IRB20]

$800 - 13 point 21 safety bolt in cage.

[HiToRiKo]

where do i get one and is that street legal?

[EXA-cism]

i know someone has taken my father and simons mother from what i can gather.
they are both acting strangly

[Packy]

Bwahahaha, you are so right.

[EXA-cism]

Well the car is on its way to Chip Torque to get finished off, so hopefully we get it back tomorrow afternoon or before the weekend :P

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/simon_co84/Photo0105.jpg

[Clown]

What no planks of wood?
Get some springs :p

[EXA-cism]

bwahaha gotta have it running before we touch the suspension and why would we waste money on springs when we can just fit coilovers...

[Packy]

Mmmmmm, coilover goodness. Can't wait to see it done and boosting Suzy. I still gotta get a drive of it :p

[Clown]

Good luck running coilovers without springs :p

[Packy]

Ummm, coilovers come with them you noob.

[EXA-cism]

Simon here - Im thinking something nice and soft, like a 7front 6rear setup :) Should be good to stiffen it up but keep the ride comfortable. Then its rims :P

[Clown]

Ummm, coilovers come with them you noob.
Um...

why would we waste money on springs when we can just fit coilovers
Thereby you pay for the springs...

Thank you for missing the point Luke, better luck next time :p

[EXA-cism]

You were talking about new or after springs, not coilovers mate, so dont try and hide your stupidity :) Love Simon

[Clown]

I'd rather be stupid than yet another tUff InterNEt keYbOard WaRRior...

[EXA-cism]

ok then idiot :)

[chkn72]

first time an exa gets on a tow truck without blocks of wood? woah!!

good going, hopefully it'll be a speedy process!

[exactly...doh]

Simon here - Im thinking something nice and soft, like a 7front 6rear setup :) Should be good to stiffen it up but keep the ride comfortable. Then its rims :P

just a bit of info, i have the G4's for the Gti-R which are 7.5 front and 5.1 rear i would go softer if i could afford/be bothered changing them.

[Packy]

What no planks of wood?
Get some springs :p

Don't Exa's come with springs ???


bwahaha gotta have it running before we touch the suspension and why would we waste money on springs when we can just fit coilovers...

Elaboration: Why would we waste money on fitting lowered springs when we can just install some coilovers that come complete with everything you need for around the same price as new springs and shocks.


Good luck running coilovers without springs :p

Ummmm....


Um...

Thereby you pay for the springs...

Thank you for missing the point Luke, better luck next time :p

I think it is you that is missing the point Anthony.


I'd rather be stupid than yet another tUff InterNEt keYbOard WaRRior...

Hahaha, isn't what you are doing is being a keyboard warrior yourself?

[Clown]

Oh for fuck sakes!!

All this from a little joka about the first EXA I've seen that hasn't ripped half the floor off getting on a flatbed.

Then its whole bragging display from Suzy and Simon about being better than people, which I made the mistake to dismiss with a joke, which has only seen to infuriate their greatness more.

And you disapoint me Luke.

Fuck this shit, I'm taking a break for a while.

[Raikkonen]

LOL!
Nice tanty, Clown!


Simon here - Im thinking something nice and soft, like a 7front 6rear setup :) Should be good to stiffen it up but keep the ride comfortable. Then its rims :P

Save your money and weld in steel rods instead of struts. haha. Everyone i know who runs GTiR spec'd adjustables on FWD nissans say the ride is extremely harsh even on the softest settings.

You want to be dropping spring rates on the GTiR setup as the weight and its distribution is completely diffferent to an exa. Rear I'd be going for 4.5 and front 6-6.5 max.

[EXA-cism]

lol @ clown - from simon

ps. suzy hasnt posted anything in this thread :)

[Packy]

Oh for fuck sakes!!

All this from a little joka about the first EXA I've seen that hasn't ripped half the floor off getting on a flatbed.

Then its whole bragging display from Suzy and Simon about being better than people, which I made the mistake to dismiss with a joke, which has only seen to infuriate their greatness more.

And you disapoint me Luke.

Fuck this shit, I'm taking a break for a while.

Hey you were the one that started it... Don't get your knickers in a knot now, you can sure give it to people but it seems that you can't take it :p

Where did they say they were better than anyone else???

As for your comment to me, you can only please some of the people all of the time.

[Android 360]

hahaha nice tanty LOL

[EXA-cism]

took it to chip torque - 0 compression on cylinder 4

needless to say i am heart broken and i am crying.

[Packy]

This guy needs to die, stabby mcstab stab!

Fucking pricks that rip people off need to castrated!!

[EXA-cism]

why do people wanna rip me off
stop fucking with my car



i just want my car back

[EXA-cism]

This is simon... Suzys dad has spoken to him. I think the line he used was

"Either you come down here and fix the problem or Ill come up there and im not a mechanic"

[chkn72]

who is "him"? the bloke who sold you the motor, or which mechanic?

damn that sucks ass, wasnt it running before you did the swap? i forget...

[KaiShin]

I think they were told it was in good nick and rebuild 30,000 klms ago...

[EXA-cism]

Yeah. We'll I did a quick call around and spoke the Geoff at Nizzpro - He said he can drop a rebuilt CA in the car with warrenty for $1800 drive away running.

[abbie]

may have been a smart idea to ring around first

[EXA-cism]

Hey abbie, you think we didn’t do that? We got fucked over once, you don’t think we didn’t try and cover our arses this time, and please don’t tell me about intelligence.

[Scraps]

hey common kids.. lets worry bout getting it running......

[KaiShin]

$1800 isn't a bad price for a rebuilt motor and intsalation to be honest...

[Android 360]

bloody good price...

[EXA-cism]

i have just had somewhat of a mental break down.

i just want to sell the car and get a car that goes. i am tired of cars. Everyone in this scene just wants to rip me off i just want to go guy a corollathat goes and for get about every thing.
i am trying to do assessment and he is now threatening to sue me?? on what fucking grounds i dont know.
i adored my grandparents but i just can't do this any more i haven't worked in months. i have no money everyone else has my money adn still idont have a way to get to uni.

so i am out.


the exa is gone.

[chkn72]

stick with it suzy, you know it will be worth it......


if theres anything I can do to help, just let us know!

[EXA-cism]

i dont even want to do it any more.

[cypress_blaze]

Hey abbie, you think we didn’t do that? We got fucked over once, you don’t think we didn’t try and cover our arses this time, and please don’t tell me about intelligence.

zing. you got zonged.

Sorry to hear the bad news, but ALWAYS do a compression test on the motor. If the owner won't let you, walk away.

EDIT: sorry if it sounds like I'm being a knob, but I would have thought that you and Simon would have thought about that at first, when you were attempting to cover your arses the first time.???

What could he sue you on? He could get grounds on any costs related to whatever you try to throw at him, seeing as how he said that the engine was in decent nick, and there was nothing to show that it wasn't, until it was tested yesterday or today.

Sad part is, is that this misfortune could have been and should have been 100% preventable.

Sucks the amount of work that went into it. :(

[KaiShin]

i dont even want to do it any more.

Yes you do, you are just upset at the moment...

[EXA-cism]

zing. you got zonged.

Sorry to hear the bad news, but ALWAYS do a compression test on the motor. If the owner won't let you, walk away.

EDIT: sorry if it sounds like I'm being a knob, but I would have thought that you and Simon would have thought about that at first, when you were attempting to cover your arses the first time.???

What could he sue you on? He could get grounds on any costs related to whatever you try to throw at him, seeing as how he said that the engine was in decent nick, and there was nothing to show that it wasn't, until it was tested yesterday or today.

Sad part is, is that this misfortune could have been and should have been 100% preventable.

Sucks the amount of work that went into it. :(



I DONT CARE HOW MUCH SHIT I GET IN FOR THIS:

EXCUSE YOU, GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD IMMEDIATLY

I HAVE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME, I HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR HOURS AND YOU POST THAT SHIT.
THE CAR WAS RUNNING WHEN WE BOUGHT IT.
NO HE CAN'T SUE ME FOR SHIT THERE ARE NO GROUNDS HE WILL WIN ON I KNOW THIS I AM NOT ASKING FOR ANYONES ASSITANCE ON THAT!!

I AM REALLY EMOTIONAL AT THIS POINT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE THREADS SO DO NOT ACT LIKE YOU DIDN'T SEE AN OUTBURST COMING

I AM NOT AN IDIOT AND THIS WASN'T PREVENTABLE SO FUCK OFF IMMEDIATLY

[cypress_blaze]

Instead of getting extremely emotional and having a go at a member half way across the world . . .. , sit down and think about it. The car was running when you bought it? Was it the complete car and you swapped engines over? or did he remove the engine and give it to you? (I don't know the answers to these questions).

If it was not preventable then why did you buy the engine if it was not 100%???

Everybody has bad days or setups. How do you think owners feel when the tuner blows up their £5000 engine in the car while tuning it on the dyno!? (btw £5000 is about $11.5k AU)

[EXA-cism]

Instead of getting extremely emotional, sit down and think about it. The car was running when you bought it? Was it the complete car and you swapped engines over? or did he remove the engine and give it to you?

If it was not preventable then why did you buy the engine if it was not 100%???

you made you point- I am 100% satisfied i did all that was possible for me to do- I AM TERRIBLY SORRY IF I AM NOT A MECHANIC LIKE YOU WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO PEOPLE JUST BEING HONEST NOW STOP RUBBING MY NOSE IN THE SITUATION AND FUCK OFF!


Everybody has bad days or setups. How do you think owners feel when the tuner blows up their £5000 engine in the car while tuning it on the dyno!? (btw £5000 is about $11.5k AU)


I DONT GIVE FUCK HOW THEY FEEL?
I FEEL LIKE SHIT CAUSE YOU WONT FUCK OFF
AND I I DONT HAVE THE ONLY THING THAT IS LEFT OF THE PERSON I LOVED MORE THAN MY OWN FATHER.

[EXA-cism]

i have read everything you have posted but i am upset right now so telling me not be upset is rreally pointless

[Buzz]

:bawling: I fell for ya!! before u make a dicesion i want ya to walk away and slep on it! don't give up yet uve put som\ muich into this car......don't quit now keep u eye on the end product!!! i have been i have very little money anjd i gotta finnish my car it's ben 12 months of the oad when it was meant to be 3-4... I feel ur pain lots... but don't worry u'll get thru it!! don't sell it!!!

[cypress_blaze]

you made you point- I am 100% satisfied i did all that was possible for me to do- I AM TERRIBLY SORRY IF I AM NOT A MECHANIC LIKE YOU WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO PEOPLE JUST BEING HONEST NOW STOP RUBBING MY NOSE IN THE SITUATION AND FUCK OFF!

I DONT GIVE FUCK HOW THEY FEEL?
I FEEL LIKE SHIT CAUSE YOU WONT FUCK OFF
AND I I DONT HAVE THE ONLY THING THAT IS LEFT OF THE PERSON I LOVED MORE THAN MY OWN FATHER.

OK this is going to sound mean and I (somewhat) apologize in advance, although no apology should be needed!

I'm not sure if you have found out that the world is not sugar coated and that there is no free lunch, ever. If this is the first time that you've found this out, well then mope for a few days then finish up. Life goes on. The last thing you need to be doing is posting on a PUBLIC forum how your life is in shambles. You've still got a roof over your head, don't you? Food in the cupboard, fridge maybe? There are tons of people in the world that would thank their lucky stars to be in your position.

If you weren't the mechanic who checked it over, then why didn't you invest the small amount of money to get the engine checked out before investing (what looks like ALOT) more time and money into a project that you now have a dead cylinder with?

I'm not rubbing your nose at all. Whoever was looking after the motor while you were doing the work should have looked into a compression test for it.

As for your snotty comment about not caring about those others who have lost engines . . . you need to sit your girly ass down and chill the fuck out. People I know have DIED over their cars or been killed by working on them. :(:thumbsdow You don't know how fucking lucky you should consider yourself that the problem is just a ringland or something like that and not a 10's of thousands of dollar problem.


Sorry if I sound pretty fuckin' pissed, but you just disrespected an entire tuning community.:madfinger

Grow up, quit being selfish, and quit thinking that the world is going to fall down. Tomorrow will come, go by, so will the next day. You'll still have your car, the university will still be there, work and make some money and get back at it. Don't give up just because something got a bit hard.

Don't give up. I'd love to see this car on the road as much as everybody else.

[EXA-cism]

well this is my thread if you dont want to hear about my emotional issues and my issues with my car... get out. simple.

i am very very entitled to be emotional right now i have sunk more than 3/4 of what i have earnt into it. while it doesn't sound alot to you the other 1/4 has gone to phone bills and and paying credit cards that have been used tospend even MORE money on it.
so i believe that right now i am entitled to be pissed off

I did all i can. now leave.

[EXA-cism]

oh yea and i dont get to work full time i spend 40 hours ON CAMPUS and another 10-20 hours studying some weeks. so i earn my money very slowly so the fact that someone has taken it off me is unfair.
well i am off the forums now.
seeings as all you want to do is give me shit about it.


laters

[Android 360]

suzy just put a ca18de into it have a nice happy running reliable exa :)
i truly do feel for you, i have gotten to the same stage as you and sold up before..
not sure if i regret it - i prolly dont - but the car didnt exactly have sentimental value...

[Packy]

I think everyone should give up on their snide comments and remarks towards the whole situation. I for one spent a lot of time working on this car too, as did Suzy and Simon, and it's heartbreaking for me to see this happen to her because I know first hand how much it meant to her to get it on the road.

Jesse, I spoke to you 2 days ago about your attitude and you yourself even admitted that you have been pretty condescending towards people of late because you are stressed out from uni exams. Now isn't the fucking time to be condescending! How would you take it if we started saying that you couldn't hack uni, that you would just flake out and fail ??? I'm pretty sure that would set you off and I wouldn't blame you for it. I would be supportive, as you have noticed and commented to me on, and try and help you chill out and unwind.

Chris, stop agreeing with people just for the sake of agreeing and increasing your post count, Suzy is upset (pretty fucking obvious if you ask me) and you are just pushing and pushing by agreeing with Jesse.

Both of you take a look around at the responses from everyone else and note that it is only the two of you that are being negative towards Suzy and her predicament.

I suggest that this thread gets closed before the situation spins out of control.

[IRB20]

Cheers for the kind words luke.

Suzy doesnt want this thread closed as its about her car and she wants to be able to update it when more work is completed. She is very upset from what has happened with the car and also the posts in this thread. So she will be taking a break from posting for the moment.

Thanks Simon

[Bardock_4]

Ok i have nothing to do with this thread anymore i have deleted all my posts as so far, and i do not care about my post count. Nor em i trying to rub anything in. I wish the best for Suzy to get her car up and running. I was never trying to be negative to Suzy.


Chris

[Brian_ratm]

It sucks that this will be my first post in this thread, ive been reading it as its built up recently and have been really impressed with the amount of work that has gone into the car, that said the thread has been polutted with people sooking and whinging at eachother (both ways) and i dont believe thats what this thread is about.
A member of the club has just lost an engine after months of work and lots of money, have a little bit of a heart and support rather than attack, even if you saw it coming/knew better/or whatever its probably not a good time the day it happens to say anything.
Suzy when i helped Faradan do his DET it took months and didnt work properly its still not right, but the perseverance is worth it
when i got my DET it stuffed up after a week and 3 months later its only now running right and still needs a dyno, but what im trying to say is that you shouldnt give up, i know you wont want to hear or listen to that but dont make a big decision in the heat of the moment. i wish you all the best with the project as im sure does the rest of the club.

[ty_exa]

i agree with the majourity of people in saying dont give up. i may not have followed this thread closely, but from the sounds of it, u put alot of work into this car and i myself dont want to see u give up.

i have had this problem with my n12 (well not THIS problem, but the pooring money into it problem)..

i bought my n12, and got it regoed, then it needed a new turbo. got a T25 and the shaft snapped, got a T2 and the alternator brakcte came loose on the highway, flippin the alternator belt off and stopping the water pump and seeing as i had no temp gauge (even though i had an auto-electritian try and fix it) the engine blew..... then a few weeks later my car got caught in flooods..... so then i replaced interior and engine, and the looms are different, and its not running, on top of which i have to replace a 3rd turbo etc, and now pay hundreds of dollars for the loom to be re-done properly..

my point is, ive been down and gonna wreck my car, sell it, the whole lot. but the way to look at it is, dont give up on somethin u have put so much effort and money into, cos i know u will regret it as i have done with previous cars.

Good luck on the rest of your build.

Ty

[Packy]

Looks like I will be back helping with this again, I want this thing running!!! :D I can't stand to see it like this, breaks your heart.

[Faggot]

i think you should keep at it
it will be a beautiful car when its done
i understand you have put alot of work and money into this but the end product will be awesome
heck didnt see me give up afterf blowing the first engine in mine
or the second...
or the third
haha
the point is this car means alot to you, and when u get it running again, even with all the money you put into it, you will appreciate it more. 1 being because it holds sentimental value and 2. because you have put so much into it
so keep at it, it will all be worth the hassles
its the way life is:)

[IRB20]

Well got it back from chip torque and i set about pulling the cam covers off there and then.

Cant really see much but when you press down on the silver thingy above the intake cam on cyclinder 4 it moves. Non of the others move. So obviously its something wrong there like the valve is stuck in the open position.

Will call around tomorrow morning to few mechanics to see who is free to get it done before christmas and hopefully send it off by tomorrow arvo :)

[guess_whos_who]

good luck guys, i know how frustrating exas can be. I've never really been happy with mine in terms of reliability, things kept breaking and things weren't done properly the first time.

This is why i'm doing what your doing now and pulling everything apart and cleaning/fixing all dodgy parts.

Seems like you've had more luck than me so far! I haven't even got the engine out yet, i'd hate to think what happens when i finally do get it out!

Also if it is the head thats causing the loss of compression, nothing like a ported and polished head with a nice set of cams and cam gears ;)

[bogan]

do i need the banning paddle out guys.. come one giver her a break.. if theres anything i can do to help let me know :)

[Packy]

Already sorted out dude :)

[M_I_5_3_X_A]

suzy, speakin from another chicks point of view here, i kno wat u r going thru, i have owned my car for 2 and a half years now and it has been off the road for 2 of them, and it is just straight out heartbreakin to see it sit there while u cant do anything about it. especially when u have to concentrate on ur bills and anything else that pops up that doesnt involve it going on ur car. i have been there with mine, and loosing my licence didnt reali help matters either, but it made the process a hell of alot harder that was for sure.

please dont give up on this ok from what i have read about this and the connection that u have with this car letting it go now will hurt even more. The feeling that u get when it is back on the road and ur driving it is amazing, trust me on this, i just got my car bak in october this year and there has not been a single day where i have not been driving it. i just cant believe that after all the hard work and patience it has finally got there, not to mention all the hard work that the nsw members put into her for me too. and now that i see it sitting in my driveway even with my personalized plates on her MI 53 XA just makes me so happy.

so just hang in there girl, and if there isanything at all any of us can do, even if we are too far away just let us kno ok all of us are here to help and i truly mean that too.

and dont listen to what the others that are puttin u down say ok they obviously dont understand u and ur connection with the car and that is not ur fault, just dont let it bother you. keep the updates coming on this we would all love to see this car bak and cruisin again.

Shaz AKA MI 53 XA

[Packy]

I'm sure Suzy will appreciate the kind words Shaz. We aren't giving up on this car yet, I want to get it running so badly so I'll be heading back down again to do more work when I can.

[Android 360]

sticky valve is good news - it could be much worse!!!

[StaTiK]

thats too easy to fix. i dont know why you would bother getting soo pissed off about it.

sure, ive had moments with my car when i just wanted to push it off a cliff (1st time i blew the head up, second time i blew the head up, 1st time i blew the gearbox, 1st time i blew the bottom end, 2nd time i snapped a cv shaft, etc...)

Im 100% with Jesse on the whole situation though. i thought you would of known to check it Simon before you bought it, seeing as you should be dealing with blown engines from time to time..

either way, get it running!

rip the engine out, strip it down and send the head away for a service...

[Scraps]

why don't u go to Murcurary Motor sport... They are working on banshi's ca18det... they just rebuilt it and they also have a dyno there.. but they are on the north side.. they are quiet expensive tho... as well... the are located at windsor somewhere "newmarket" road....don't have a phone umber for u tho sorry.. id suggest Motive as well were i take my ca18det.. but sonny is closing shop in the new year.. which means i also have to find a new mechinic :( im sure they could get it running for u...

[Packy]

i thought you would of known to check it Simon before you bought it, seeing as you should be dealing with blown engines from time to time..

What's that supposed to mean? He doesn't rape his cars like you do, that's why you keep blowing shit up. We've all heard the stories Jimmy, don't deny it.

We didn't know it was a stuck valve until a couple of days ago Jimmy. Simon pulled the cam covers off to check after we had a chat about it and found that it was stuck. As for taking it to Mercury, it's easier to do it at his place, due to the fact that Mercury is ages away from them :p

[M_I_5_3_X_A]

I'm sure Suzy will appreciate the kind words Shaz. We aren't giving up on this car yet, I want to get it running so badly so I'll be heading back down again to do more work when I can.

no worries at all darlin, and as i said, once is running all of this will b worth it. just keep tellin suzy that.

keep us updated on this and as i said altho i am a million miles away any help u need yell ok

Shaz

[cypress_blaze]

packy, can you get on msn? I have some suggestions (of which you probably already know but i'd like to discuss then with you).

Also, would you not consider the ca18det to be a performance engine?

Anything with a turbo should be checked!

Now that you think it is a dropped or stuck valve, do a leakdown test. pump air into the cylinder (up to 100 psi to be safe???) and listen to where it leaks from. If it leaks out your oil dipstick, there is ring or piston damage, which would still be more than a valve fix.

If it's a stuck valve, the leak would only be from the exhaust pipe or throttlebody. You've already isolated the problem to cylinder 4, so you know it's 1 of 4 valves.

If the valve has stuck open though, the CA series engines are interference, meaning that a stuck valve would hit the piston. The good news could be that the piston bent the 5hit out of the valve and did not damage the piston (other than a valve mark or a "ding"). If the valve managed to kick a hole into the crown of the piston, well then you're right back at where you would be if it was rings or rod or piston problem.

The head will be coming off for sure, how else would the valve come out???

What are your guys thoughts?

[StaTiK]

What's that supposed to mean? He doesn't rape his cars like you do, that's why you keep blowing shit up. We've all heard the stories Jimmy, don't deny it.

We didn't know it was a stuck valve until a couple of days ago Jimmy. Simon pulled the cam covers off to check after we had a chat about it and found that it was stuck. As for taking it to Mercury, it's easier to do it at his place, due to the fact that Mercury is ages away from them :p


What that is meant to mean is that blown engines come in hand with motorsports such as drifting and shit... i would of been sure that you would check a new engine for compression when bought. Fuckin oath i rape my cars... i flog the fuck outta them until they die.. then i rebuild or replace. When i bought my S13 engine, i made sure a compression test was performed before handing over the cash.. I just thought that you or Simon would of insisted on one, seeing as you both are quite knowledgeable with cars.

Find somewhere closer than Mercury then, and send it to them to do, because otherwise it will just be taking longer for you all..

and i wasnt having a go at anyone there, so dont try and jump down my throat about it.

consider yourselves lucky its only a sticky valve, and go with what Jesse said, although im sure you already are.

[Packy]

Nah Simon went the smart option with his drift car, 1JZ :P (although I keep telling him that it's blasphemy putting in a Toyota motor into the 180), and those motor are virtually bulletproof. With the purchase of the motor, that was something that I wasn't involved in, but I'm not saying anything bad about Simon at all.

Once Christmas is out of the way, then we can get stuck into it and get it sorted out and everyone will be so much happier.

[IRB20]

We have looked at the top of the piston through the spark plug hole, and we couldnt see any type of damage, but thats not saying there is damage that I couldnt see.

It is possible to get the valve out without pulling the head off, but it involves taking the cam shaft out, which means taking the cam gears off and the cam gear covers etc.

So because Im lazy and Suzy wants the car going, it will be going to a mechanic in the new year to get fixed.

[Buzz]

*a360 edit*
glad to here it's not stuffed EXA-cism cant wait to see it on the road!:)

[cypress_blaze]

*a360 edit*
how do you plan on removing the stuck valve and then getting the fresh one in there, without removing the head from the block???

[Android 360]

back on track............. or else...................... ;)

[EXA-cism]

hey can the sentiment of my last post remain please? if he wants to have a go at me leave it off the boards and call me but leave this thread alone cause it is about my car and i dont want it closed :D

please K? thanks

[krikket_nx]

damn.. i can't wait to see this car on the road cruising wit us... so much anguish and upset over it... and i think its awesome you have kept with it suzy, instead of just saying "fuck it" and wrecking it or something.
You go girl. its great to see a female sticking to her guns on a car with so many people giving u shit about it. this exa had better treat u well and i bet ur nanna is looking down on you thinking the same thing, and all proud and stuff that you have kept to it.
keep goin. eventually, things will work out and then u will have your exa on the road and can show off how damn hard u worked. well, you, simon and luke. :)

there is my 2c. :P

[IRB20]

lots of love to luke for all his help :P hehe

but it will be running shortly :)

[chkn72]

hurry up, i'm getting all antsy :P

whats happened at the mechs??

[ZoKsZ]

The car should run on 3 cylenders, even if number 4 has no compression but should run rough. Just letting you know, Good Luck!

[IRB20]

timing is also out.

[EXA-cism]

we have been told i will have it back early next week but no hopes up yet..

[Packy]

Yeah we all know what happens when one get's one's hopes up :(

[reeceknot]

Yeh next week will turn into the week after, then a month away etc.etc

[EXA-cism]

Well it wont be a month away. It will be done Monday/Tuesday.

Just an update on whats happening with the car when we get it back.

The current headunit is being removed and binned (well not really binned but put somewhere else not in the car)

Stock headunit if being put back in so that it works. Then setup an RCA/Headphone Jack that I can plug my IPOD into.

Then Simon will be making a custom sub box so that the SUB/AMP will be mounting in the tyre well and also the battery will be mounted in the tyre well also. That way the boot will be clear to use and it will be nice and clean and back to its original interior state :)

Intercooler is going to be painted black, and using the stock exhaust. So it will look like a stock EXA. :D The perfect exa hehe

[chkn72]

nice one suzy, i wish I could have used the stock muffler :( and headunit.. lol

[cypress_blaze]

make sure that you use paint that doesn't act as a heatsoak.

There's a reason IC's aren't painted black.

sounds good so far.

[EXA-cism]

there are days when fuck is not a strong enough word

[EXA-cism]

i am tired of mechanics doing what ever they fucking well feel like without asking me then charging me for it

[chkn72]

whats happened? what they charge you for?

[KaiShin]

x2

What's happened now?
:(

[cypress_blaze]

i am tired of mechanics doing what ever they fucking well feel like without asking me then charging me for it

damn.

Well, you're in law school. Can't you fight garbage like that? Don't they need your permission to do certain work???

[chkn72]

depends what she told them to do.... I'm always very specific with mechanics... but she may have told them to "just fix it" (this isnt bad mouthing anyone)

it sucks though, and they should give you a rough price before they start work (sometimes that is impossible though)

[EXA-cism]

they towed it to some guy who said "no, i dont know what a microtech is but i am sure i wil crack it" when i had it all booked in to chiptorque

[EXA-cism]

no they moved my car without my permission

[chkn72]

*ack* well goddammit.. that sucks ass.... hope you ripped them a new one :D

[EXA-cism]

will be they also claim my wiring is a mess and that there are parts missing..
let me tell you.. if they have chop shopped my car i will see them on court.. and i will be the accused.

[EXA-cism]

It is running.

[StaTiK]

damn! thats really bad news Suzy.. if your 100% sure that the wiring is all there and the parts, go in there with Simon or Luke and ask them what is meant to be missing.

but congrats on getting it running. let us know how it goes!

[EXA-cism]

he is bullshitting he said like 3 times that he doesn't want luke to come and see the wiring

[StaTiK]

is it you or Simon the mechanics are talking to about the car?

[Packy]

We are going in there at 8 o'clock tomorrow morning to talk to them and see what they have done.

This is what they are complaining about:

1. There was bolts missing and this was causing it to not run etc as well as other things. Said bolts are actually the cam cover bolts that are just for cosmetic purposes. PHAIL 1

2. They claim that the wiring was completely dodgy and that shit was missing when they even said they know nothing about Microtechs in the first place. The wiring they are talking about is actually the factory loom that we left coiled up in the top corner of the engine bay just incase there was a sensor that we missed or something. Chiptorque have said that my wiring was perfect, and they are specialists. PHAIL 2

3. The key on the exhaust crank for the CAS is missing so you have to line it up by eye to get it in properly. They put the CAS in the wrong spot so it wouldn't work cause the ECU timing was out from the CAS being in the wrong spot. PHAIL 3


In my opinion, 3 strikes and you're out. This is why I don't take my car to a mechanic, not only because I can do it myself, but because you don't know who to trust. The wanted to know where I worked and what I did for a living etc, yet that has nothing to do with the job that was done on the wiring. There are plenty of people that aren't qualified for it yet they know what they are doing.

ULTRATUNE have also told Suzy and her mum that they don't want me to go in there because they don't want me to tear strips off them.

Guess I do know what I'm doing then :p

ULTRA TUNE THIS IS FOR YOU
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/chkn72/TS1200538788978_pic26155.jpg

[EXA-cism]

oh dont forget this.... he says to me: There is a ECU expert here working on the car

to simon: oh really it has a microtech

[cypress_blaze]

take a hidden or secret camera!

Looks like it could get interesting!

Good luck!

[Packy]

Yeah we'll see how we go in 6 1/2 hours when we get there. Maube I should get some sleep, nah still got some more JD to drink :D

[bogan]

good luck guys.. hope u sort it out real soon... cant wait to see her regod n driving :)

[cypress_blaze]

well it's 8 hours since I left for work, and update on this?

[bogan]

Garry.. ultratune guys are all qualified mechanics and they do alot more than change brake pads.. they do everything...

and i know a few mechanics that work for ultratune and they have built themselfs really tough rotars.. like a 400kw at the wheels and wired in mircotechs and haltecks etc... so i think u need to do a bit of research first...

[StaTiK]

most the ultratunes i know of are just like this. dodgy motherfuckers that dont know what they're on about..

they have a bad rep for a reason...

[bogan]

well i must say up here around my area.. the ultratune mechanics are really good... and are very knowledgeable well thats the few one around my place anyway.. cant speak for the others.. one of them has just gone to preditor motorsports as one of there mechanics

[Packy]

I bet every exa owner has done this once in a while.....

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb100/simon_co84/Image743.jpg

[cypress_blaze]

^^ Who's that? The mechanic?

:P

[EXA-cism]

Hahah no that is me :P I was waiting for it to start and here is a video :P

5Fr3CJ08oyM

[cypress_blaze]

Hahah no that is me :P I was waiting for it to start and here is a video :P

5Fr3CJ08oyM



nice work.

Now, lose the eavestrough-length pipe run and route it through a minty fmic.

Otherwise, glad to see it is working once again.

What did they do? Last I heard it was brought to the mechanic's with suspicion of a stuck valve, and now it's running?

congratulations. I need to see it when I get up there.

[Clown]

Hahah no that is me :P I was waiting for it to startSounds like you're still waiting :p ;)

[EXA-cism]

nice work.

Now, lose the eavestrough-length pipe run and route it through a minty fmic.

Otherwise, glad to see it is working once again.

What did they do? Last I heard it was brought to the mechanic's with suspicion of a stuck valve, and now it's running?

congratulations. I need to see it when I get up there.

Hahah yeah, we just threw something together to make sure there wasnt any vaccum leaks. We have a front mount for it and simon will making up the piping etc to fit the front mount during the week.

Yeah there was a damaged valve and valve seals also. Got that fixed up and got perfect compression now. 125 across the board.

It still needs the timing sorted out just a lil to get it perfect. May still need to go to Chip Torque for some dyno time. But hopefully have it done and ready to roll to Chkns for Australia Day weekend.

[Packy]

and i know a few mechanics that work for ultratune and they have built themselfs really tough rotars.. like a 400kw at the wheels and wired in mircotechs and haltecks etc... so i think u need to do a bit of research first...

Well my research is the Ultratune guy saying that they know nothing about Microtechs and how they work. How about you get all the facts before you have a go at me. As I put in my post last night, if you happened to read it, was that they admitted they knew nothing about them.

[DEVILsEXA]

just a bit of info, i have the G4's for the Gti-R which are 7.5 front and 5.1 rear i would go softer if i could afford/be bothered changing them.

You'll find it's not the springs that are the issue but more the valves in the shocks. You can take them to a reputable suspension place and have them revalved so that the compression stroke is a bit softer which is probably what your finding is the issue!

Sorry to hyjack the thread :P

[cypress_blaze]

You'll find it's not the springs that are the issue but more the valves in the shocks. You can take them to a reputable suspension place and have them revalved so that the compression stroke is a bit softer which is probably what your finding is the issue!

Sorry to hyjack the thread :P

it's rated at kg/mm or something like that.

Stiffer suspension means that if you have truck suspension in a small car, you will feel ALL the bumps.

Softer, (lower kb/mm) or if you have family car suspension on a 1 ton truck, you'll feel everything.

[Pig_man84]

good stuff!!!

Yea definately sounds like a timming issue there, but at least it ran!! Was it running on all 4?? sounds like only 3??

Keep us all posted on the progress!

[bogan]

Well my research is the Ultratune guy saying that they know nothing about Microtechs and how they work. How about you get all the facts before you have a go at me. As I put in my post last night, if you happened to read it, was that they admitted they knew nothing about them.

my post wasnt aimed at u sorry luke.. it was at garry.. but his post was delete...

[Packy]

Ahh ok Ben, sorry mate I didn't get to see Garry's post. That's the problem with someone deleting their post, it makes it look like you were having a go at me :p

[bogan]

yea i reallised that after... but yea glad to see suzys car running... cant wait to see it running in person.. when its all done.. cant be much left now ??

[Packy]

Yeha they just wanna make sure it's running properly before they let us take it. I think it will still go to Chip TOrque to get remapped, due to the map in it being for a T28 and it has a T25G now.

[cypress_blaze]

why would you have downgraded from a t28 to a t25g?

[EXA-cism]

Because the t28 from the gtir didnt have an exhaust wheel and the compressor wheel was seized. So we sold it with the motor and the new CA came with a t25g, custom manifold and custom dump.

[Packy]

T28 is too big for a stock CA anyway, too laggy. Skindoe who knows his shit about DET's only ran a T25G and he pulled some good figures from it. They don't want too much boost anyway as it's Suzy's daily and it's safer that way :p Plus what's the point in having a huge HP figure if you've got a FWD, that's what AWD and RWD are for, it's usefull in them. You'd agree there Jesse :p

[reeceknot]

Ultratune are shit, they are the reason i have a second exa that is a wreck :P

[cypress_blaze]

T28 is too big for a stock CA anyway, too laggy. Skindoe who knows his shit about DET's only ran a T25G and he pulled some good figures from it. They don't want too much boost anyway as it's Suzy's daily and it's safer that way :p Plus what's the point in having a huge HP figure if you've got a FWD, that's what AWD and RWD are for, it's usefull in them. You'd agree there Jesse :p

ah. Yep a bit harder to turn up the boost so high on a smaller turbo.

Yep, the fwd mistake as it's known.

turbo fwd cars ftl. :p

[guess_whos_who]

t28 ftw! mattybaby's exa was such a great car to drive which had a t28. Spool time was almost non existent

[IRB20]

Imagine what is will be like with a t25g then :P No spool time.

I didnt want anything bigger than a t25g because its going to be suzys daily and i dont need it having huge power. We just need it to be driven to uni and back until she is finished. So im going to limit the boost to stock actuator and rev limit to 4000 - 4500rpm

[cypress_blaze]

rev limit to 4000-4500 rpm? That's just when boost and the power band of the CA engine are in full stroke.

As for the t28, it is a fantascic turbo for the ca18det. It fits right into the t25 exhaust flange, so there should be no need for any fab work on the exhaust side. It's the inlet side that *may* need work.

[IRB20]

Yes 4000 - 4500rpm, stock CA turbo comes in at 2500 and should be more than enough for Suzy, because she doesnt need to rev the tits off it. Remember we want the motor to last, so she can get to uni for the next 2 years.

And WE DONT WANT TO PUT A T28 ONTO THIS CA...... HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS.

[Clown]

What about a T66?



;)

[Pspicer]

haha i agree

[Buzz]

Yeah go the T66!!! ...hheheheheehahaha....

nah she be great when u got it rego'd n on the road! !!

[EXA-cism]

The car is rego'd. Its never been unregistered. Will be driving it as soon as its ready to go.

55EXA hitting the streets shortly :P

[Buzz]

sweet as! thats awsome!

[cypress_blaze]

Yes 4000 - 4500rpm, stock CA turbo comes in at 2500 and should be more than enough for Suzy, because she doesnt need to rev the tits off it. Remember we want the motor to last, so she can get to uni for the next 2 years.

And WE DONT WANT TO PUT A T28 ONTO THIS CA...... HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS.

Just don't wind up the boost so far then!

:derr: :derr: :rolleyes: offtap1:

[Packy]

Why bother spending money on a bigger turbo when it'll never be used to it's potential and the spool time is gonne be longer. Are you not paying attention Jesse? The T28 was stuffed, bent shaft and seized, no exhaust wheel. The new motor had a T25G on it which has less spool time and is better for the application. The whole T66 comment sums up the usability of a T28 with this setup, fucking pointless.

[cypress_blaze]

You'd get better mileage with the t28.

Splitting hairs now. Yes I was paying attention boss.

Have fun with the car when it's finished. I assume all is well with it now?

[KaiShin]

Wow...
After all the crap, i'm glad to hear your car is finally running Suzy :)

[reeceknot]

Mattybaby's car wasnt quite stock internally tho :P

[Packy]

Yeah the initial outlay for a T28 is something that we don't want, that and it isn't going to be set up for power at all, everything apart from the motor is stock, even the exhaust. You may say that it is stupid doing that but we don't really care because Suzy wants her car in stock condition with the exception of the motor. It's better that way anyway because she is a uni student and income isn't that high, so keeping it relatively stock means cheaper maintenance and so forth.

Moving on now, Simon should be getting a call today about the car and how it's running now once they've finished putting it back together.

[EXA-cism]

bottom line here is:


it is my car, i want a t25g
I do not want a blow off value and i do not want an exhaust that will deafen small children

I had a t28 i had a big exhaust i had a blow off valve in the last exa and i felt embarassed and like a greasy wog driving around in it.

i do not want people to know this car is DET at all ... if i want to impress people i show them my shoes, and i do not have a penis.. thusly no extention is required.


i want the t25g, arguement over the benefits of a bigger turbo.. over..

thank you peace love and chicken grease

[bogan]

i want to impress people i show them my shoes, and i do not have a penis.. thusly no extention is required.


hhahaha good call :) i love it

[IRB20]

There will be a bov on there, but it will be plumbed back into the intake. But for now it wont have one, and will just have flutter back through the pod and before you start preaching it will damage the turbo. Remember thing. 4 - 6psi isnt going to damage it and I know this for a fact, considering my mate ran 18psi through his turbo with bov for over 2 years and it was fine when he sold it.

[KaiShin]

The only thing a BOV does is allow the turbo to spool quicker through gear changes (air returning back to the turbo when the TB is snapped shut)... The return pressure to the turbo doesn't damage it...

IF anyone has proof that it does I will eat my words, i have yet to see a turbo to be genuinly damaged because there was no BOV installed...

[chkn72]

please dont let this turn into that debate again :P

good work sticking with the T25g.... i'm quite happy with mine :D

plumback BOV will be quiet as.... i've got no BOV and the full stock intake (no pod filter), and i can still hear the flutter, when I had a pod on there it was loud as fuck...

hopefully it'll be ready for this weekend, will be good to see it - since mine wont be ready :(

[cypress_blaze]

The only thing a BOV does is allow the turbo to spool quicker through gear changes (air returning back to the turbo when the TB is snapped shut)... The return pressure to the turbo doesn't damage it...

IF anyone has proof that it does I will eat my words, i have yet to see a turbo to be genuinly damaged because there was no BOV installed...

The air is not pressurized any more once it's left the pipe run after the compressor housing.


The point of a blow off valve is when you are off the trottle (shifting gears, etc.) the Throttle body closes and the pressurized gas has no place to go. The blow off valve allows that air to vent into the atmosphere. When the butterfly in the throttle body opens, the vacuum in the intake manifold is removed and the valve closes, allowing boos pressure to return to the engine. If this valve is not in place, a pressure wave is returned to the turbo, causing a compressor stall.


If this occurs, the turbo may not be able to produce boost when the throttle body re-opens until the stagnant air in the compressor moves, thus removing the compressor stall.

^^ keep in mind that it's a short time frame before the stagnant air is moved from the blades/vanes.

so, you're part right.

AND, I have a BOV (See sig). It is not re-circulated, and it gets used every day. The best part is that the police can't touch it!! :D

[IRB20]

We can push urs around? I would go to another engineer?

[Packy]

Over here, anything that vents atmospheric (bov's) are illegal.

[IRB20]

Everything is illegal in Australia.

[Scraps]

STUPID GOVT.... thats all i have to say to that lol... but congrats on getting her running ...

[Packy]

Amen to that Karl :p

[ExaBaybee]

yay, means you dont have to buy anymore shoes, :)

lol

i cant wait till im posting that my baby is going again , i feel so left out

[guess_whos_who]

Mattybaby's car wasnt quite stock internally tho
Perhaps, but i dont see how forged pistons and rods make it go faster! It just allows it to. When i drove it, it had stock cams, stock ecu so no real extreme modification.

I think the T25g is a good option in the scheme of things, no point spending unnecessary money

[Android 360]

congrats guys, and i like it how you are making it a silent det! thats what i want to do when i det the vert!

i personally wouldnt bother with a bov either.
they dont come on em from factory, you are running a factory setup.
your arent getting a noisy bov so you obviously dont want it for the noise
so why waste the money at all if you dont need one?

there is no way in hell that flutter damages the turbo and if you dont want loud flutter:
1) dont dose pipe it lol
2) put the air filter in an airbox (factory one if you can) and it will be muffled

oh and i hope ur getting a mod plate guys hahaha

[Pig_man84]

hey, yea you'll definitely need to airbox the filter if you want to reduce the flutter noise.. luke will compound that!! he came for another drive in mine the other day, and it almost sounds like it has a BOV, but it has NONE, no bov or plumb back, just flutter... and under hard accel & change it sounds like a BOV but then adds a little flutter to it....

I have no airbox, the filter comes out inside the pass side inner guard and breathes nice and cool from there....

[chkn72]

it will be muffled, but it won't be silent - which is what they want - so i think a plumback BOV will be a good solution for them!

I have the stock airbox + filter and it still flutters, so much that people around me hear it... and i have been asked if I have a BOV aswell, as they heard the flutter

[IRB20]

Well Suzy just called and it will be ready to leave chip torque this afternnon. They are just bleeding the brakes and I will be organising a tow truck. To where Im not quite sure yet.

It will either be Chip Torque if there is a free spot, cause its running rich atm, to rich to drive. Or to Suzys place where i will remove fuel from the tune in the hope of getting it running nicely. :)

[KaiShin]

Have you got all the software Simon?
:D

[IRB20]

Well its free to download. So no, but I can download it. Might try and find a stock CA18DET map to load on.

[KaiShin]

Yeah, but you need to have the dongle (you get it when you buy the software), and i'm not sure if the free software is the complete tuning tools?

[chkn72]

all it is is a crossover doo-hicky... i've got one, but i'm not going to pull it apart (would need to break it) and it cost me too much money to do that... best to take it to a tuner!

havent you got a base tune? try contacting microtech for it... you can import fuel maps, so they should be able to send you one

[IRB20]

Yeah im currently trying to find a microtech dongle to use. You can download the software, its the dongle that costs like $100 and yeah chkn we know they swap over a couple of pins but havent found one to pull it apart etc.

[chkn72]

i suppose I could get the multi meter out..... that would be a fair whack of effort tho :(

[IRB20]

Nah dont worry about it now. its going to chip torque, so i dont have to bother. Might plug it in when i get down thou and check the tune some more :)

[EXA-cism]

sometimes fuck just isn't a stong enough word.


someone doesn't want me driving this car..