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[Blood]

hey -

anyone using a sound system.. with no subs ??

and does it sound good ??

just that i am sick of the subs in the back... take up too much room ! -
so is it possible to have a good sounding system... with no subs ?

[SupraBOY]

get some 3way 6X9's. will give u your sub fix. but you'll never get the bass affect without pure subs.

[DEVILsEXA]

Yeh man... i recon some of the best sound system (around here) have no subs (but thats coz ppl with subs dont really understand tha music that they play so it doesn't sound all that great)

Get yourself a good H/U i suggest an Alpine with the 'bass engine' technology (BBE) as this will help sooo much when u have all your speakers in fine tuning to the type of music u listen to!

Get the best sounding splits u can afford for tha front and once again the best 6*9's u can get for the rear with the money u have to spend!

That should be enough to get you going and give u a great sound staging effect.

Now all you need is the perfect amp/s to run the speakers.

So using the speaker specifications you will be able to find a very nice amp to suit and relitivly cheap!

Some ppl will tell u to buy the amp 1st (the biggest u can afford) but i think that is BS. Coz then u may end up with an amp that isnt quite right for the type of speakers u realy like and end up having to get some other ones that arn't quite as good.

Anyway thats my say!!!

Let us know what u think man! And maybe what u end up doing!

Craig.

[DEVILsEXA]

Actually i dont know why i didnt think of this b4 BUUUUUUUT

there are these things called 'bass drivers' i have heard a clarion bass driver and it cranks!

Basically they are AMPs with built on 6" Subs not much bigger than a decent sized amp!!!

It might be worth checking these out!

I was considering gettin one to go on tha back of tha drivers and passengers seats!!!

Craig.

[SupraBOY]

i've heard stories about those bass drivers before... if it's what i'm thinking of you put them under your seats and they are suppose to rattle the shit out of your car.. unfortunately this is all they do and they end up pissing u off more than anything

[DEVILsEXA]

nar dood... some people use then like that...

but no used properly they are very good i've heard clarion bassdriver in action and i must tell u that i was impressed!

They are designed for sound systems in Utes/dualcabs ect

'Subsonics' are nice too, not for the sound part but for the whole *ground shaking sensation* they fit inside the seats and vibrate to the bass... or the sesativty you set them to.

[Akil]

Her is a pic of the Clarion Active Subwoofer ('bass driver')

http://www.clarion.com.au/Car/products/images/srv303.jpg

Here is the dims of the unit.

http://www.clarion.com.au/Car/products/images/srv303dim.gif

[DEVILsEXA]

Yeh thats actually tha one i've heard in action!!!

Bloody good i tell ya for tha size of em!

[Akil]

I'm looking at getting one, but it depends on how much I spend on my new HU.

[Master Yoda]

ive heard those amps and they arent to bad at all

-Mike

[Matt]

Jaycar Electronics was selling those bass drivers a while back for under $40 each, and they may still have them. They are from some backpack that was designed as a virtual reality accessory back in the mid 90s.

[oliverfehr]

what about kenwod 7x9s for bass? I am considering getting these until I have enough money for a sub setup. Anyone got 7x9s?

[DEVILsEXA]

i dont know what size the Kenwood range of magents and speaker rise are but i know for sure that all other brands that make 7*9's and larger have a rise that will not fit in our cars!

If a company would only make 5*9"s then all us exa ppl would be happy as happy can be!!!

[Focus]

Hey I have this things called bass shackers there about 6in around they screw to the floor and you hook them up to your HU and they vibrate when the bass hits sounds ok if you have no road noise I put subs in my car so what i did was screewed them to my sofas in my house and hooked them up to my suround sound sys. they work great

[Basscart]

Boston make 5x8" coaxials. :)

[MRX42U]

if u go ahead with the sub-less setup, i might be intrested in buying ur subs!!!

what kind of subs do you have????

[Nugget]

Silver exa you rember my ICE from the cruze I have no subs and no amp, but im planing to gat an Alpine 4ch amp to run my 6"x9" an my 6" splits, the guys at Northfeild reckons it will sound great. I thought about subs but they take up to much space.

[Akil]

16 rmc I feel the same as you, I'm not realy interested in subs for the reason that they take up space.

[Nugget]

i hear ya Akil sure i'll get them if i had a big boot with the speakers i have and adding an amp they will sound sweet. Besides how am i spose to get the the roof storeage

[Akil]

That's it. :smurf:

So what ICE are you running?

[Nugget]

Pioneer 4 X45 wts cd player
Alpine 6" splits 220wts
Alpine 6" X 9" 180wts
I planing to get an Alpine amp 4 x 90wts to run it all.

[Akil]

Cool :cool:

Atm I'm running Pioneer DEH-P5450 (50x4)
Pioneer 6" splits
Claion 6" duel cone (being replaced for obvious reasons)

[Exaterrestrial]

ok guys, this isnt rocket science, u can have subs and not loose a single inch of ur boot or your back seat!!! how u might ask?? get a sheet of mdf... and build a rear parcel shelf that runs from the top of the back seat to sit flush with the rear hatch. the cut a big ass hole in it and stick a "free air" subwoofer in there (doesnt require a box). Pioneer make these subs and they are good quality, just stick the sub in the hole and carpet the rest and walla! sub in the car and not boot space or rear seat lost, a very neat install too! thats my suggestion,
ET! :bounce:

[Nugget]

Originally posted by Exaterrestrial
ok guys, this isnt rocket science, u can have subs and not loose a single inch of ur boot or your back seat!!! how u might ask?? get a sheet of mdf... and build a rear parcel shelf that runs from the top of the back seat to sit flush with the rear hatch. the cut a big ass hole in it and stick a "free air" subwoofer in there (doesnt require a box). Pioneer make these subs and they are good quality, just stick the sub in the hole and carpet the rest and walla! sub in the car and not boot space or rear seat lost, a very neat install too! thats my suggestion,
ET! :bounce:

Sounds goo in theory.
How much weight is going to be on that shelf 10, 15kg plus the weight of the mdf?
Fixing a parcel shelf into a hatch will get you defected. Because you are fixing the shelf to plastic not metal, if you stop fast , you run the risk of having you subs fly forward and hitting someone.
I've seen this happen it dont look prity trust me. I'll try and find some picks, most of the people have died, and the car hasnt even hit any one else
This also aplys if you are putting 6x9's on the shelf the weight alone from the mdf will rip it out.

You ask what about factory parcel shelfs, they get away with it because the speakers are not on the shelf there normalyto the sides of the shelf, and its made out of plastic stuff, and also when the hatch lide is down it stops it from being lifted up from the back.

Well any way sorry ET to burst you bubble, but if the police see it and if they know what they are doing they might just ask for $180 and two points.

[Exaterrestrial]

there is a problem, u can work around it, just secure the parcel shelf into some metal in the hatch... if u cant find metal, buy some bolt it in then bolt the shelf onto that! i dunno but i've seen many people do this and never heard of anyone being defected for it, however in saying that i understand where 16RMC is comming from as this might be a big saftey issue, worth looking into tho, every problem has a solution, find it and work around it... good point 16RMC, cya guys,
ET! :bounce:

[[OUT-23K]`D_ExA]

I was thinkin the same thing...
i didnt want subs either for the reason of less bott sapce
and also cause of the targa`s...
so now ive decided to get
a JVC mp3 player deck
6" clarion splits wif tweeters n crossover for the front
320 watt Fusion 6*9`s (they fuckin pump hard :D )
and a V12 alpine amp...
i hope it sounds good and ill let use noe of the results...

[Master Yoda]

hey hope ur system sounds good.

let us know what its like, in the end with out the subs

-Mike

[[OUT-23K]`D_ExA]

thanks man...
yeh no worries its there now im pickin it up in
30mins...
ill let use noe...
:D

[NIP007]

I don't think sound systems are 'complete' without subs.. because basically you're not getting all of the music i.e. the bass notes. Bass is what makes music sound good too and gives it depth. It's all up to personal taste though I guess. 6x9's should give sufficient bass though if installed properly and given enough power. :)

[[OUT-23K]`D_ExA]

well mine in wif what i sed n im pretty happy wif what it sounds like...
the 6inches and 6x9s were the best ones that i could find and they had the maxiuim power output i could find...
if use r cumin to the sydney exa cruise u will hear it then...
im gettin a 10" sub put in but...
i dont knoe its loud but i think i want alittle louder...
its like everythin...
even if ur car goes hard u want it to go harder...
:D